Sabrina Carpenter Says Taylor Swift Is 'One of My Best, Best Friends': 'She's Just Such a Gangster with All of It'

Mar. 15, 2025

Taylor Swift and Sabrina Carpenter in Newark in September 2023.Photo:John Shearer/GettyThat’s that Swift espresso!Sabrina Carpenteris pulling back the curtain a bit on her “best, best” friendship withTaylor Swift, which blossomed after the “Espresso” singer, 25,joined Swift, 34, on the road for a chunk of her international Eras Tour dateslast year.While chatting withVarietyfor its August 2024 cover story, Carpentercalled the 14-time Grammy winnera “rock star” — a reaction to a record store’s decision to file Swift’s albumThe Tortured Poets Departmentin the “rock” section.“She’s just such a gangster with all of it,” she said of the superstar. “No matter what people are saying, everything that I’ve ever seen her tackle, she’s done so with grace.”Sabrina Carpenter and Taylor Swift performing together during a Sydney, Australia tour stop in February 2024.Don Arnold/TAS24/GettyElsewhere in the interview, Carpenter addressedher headline-making SKIMS campaign, whichsparked lots of online conversationgiven Swift’shighly publicized feudwith the shapewear brand’s founder, Kim Kardashian.“The posts about me having to ‘ask for her permission’ — no,” theGirl Meets Worldalum toldVariety. “She’s one of my best, best friends, and we grab dinner or text and catch up like you would with your best friend.”Plus, as her own spotlight continues to grow, Carpenter said her close friendship with the “Enchanted” singer has been an invaluable resource.“It’s so cool for me to get a perspective on this whole process from her and the community of artists that I feel I’m close to — to get advice from them on stuff that you can’t just ask the internet,” she told the magazine. “We’re always playing each other our [music], and whenever I start to think, ‘Maybe I’ll get on Twitter [X] and say something about this,’ I’m always like, ‘Maybe I’ll write a song instead.’ ”Sabrina Carpenter for Variety.Matthew Sprout/VarietyCarpenter firstaddressed the conversation surrounding Swift and her SKIMS campaignin aRolling Stoneinterview about two months after the ‘90s-inspired ads first dropped earlier this year.“I’ve been very, very communicative with her about that situation, and I just love her so much and support her till the end,” Carpenter said of the “Anti-Hero” singer. “So it was no weirdness for me, but I know people will just say things because that’s all they have time to do.”Never miss a story — sign up forPEOPLE’s free daily newsletterto stay up-to-date on the best of what PEOPLE has to offer, from juicy celebrity news to compelling human interest stories.Sabrina Carpenter performs in New York City in June 2024.Nina Westervelt/Billboard via GettyPrior to their friendship and Eras Tour team-up, Carpenter — a longtime and vocal fan of Swift — opened up about how the star’s music, and specifically her 2020 albumfolklore, has inspired her own creative process.“Taylor Swift posted something when she released her new album in the description of when it dropped and saying like, ‘I usually would overthink the songs that I’m going to put out and release,’”she told Apple Musicin 2020. “And I just feel like nothing is certain right now and so it just felt right and I wanted to do it.”“And that put me in such a good warm-hearted place where then I could listen to all these songs that I’ve been making with such a fresh perspective of like, ‘You know what, this is how I feel right now in musical form,’ ” Carpenter added.

Taylor Swift and Sabrina Carpenter in Newark in September 2023.Photo:John Shearer/Getty

John Shearer/Getty

That’s that Swift espresso!Sabrina Carpenteris pulling back the curtain a bit on her “best, best” friendship withTaylor Swift, which blossomed after the “Espresso” singer, 25,joined Swift, 34, on the road for a chunk of her international Eras Tour dateslast year.While chatting withVarietyfor its August 2024 cover story, Carpentercalled the 14-time Grammy winnera “rock star” — a reaction to a record store’s decision to file Swift’s albumThe Tortured Poets Departmentin the “rock” section.“She’s just such a gangster with all of it,” she said of the superstar. “No matter what people are saying, everything that I’ve ever seen her tackle, she’s done so with grace.”Sabrina Carpenter and Taylor Swift performing together during a Sydney, Australia tour stop in February 2024.Don Arnold/TAS24/GettyElsewhere in the interview, Carpenter addressedher headline-making SKIMS campaign, whichsparked lots of online conversationgiven Swift’shighly publicized feudwith the shapewear brand’s founder, Kim Kardashian.“The posts about me having to ‘ask for her permission’ — no,” theGirl Meets Worldalum toldVariety. “She’s one of my best, best friends, and we grab dinner or text and catch up like you would with your best friend.”Plus, as her own spotlight continues to grow, Carpenter said her close friendship with the “Enchanted” singer has been an invaluable resource.“It’s so cool for me to get a perspective on this whole process from her and the community of artists that I feel I’m close to — to get advice from them on stuff that you can’t just ask the internet,” she told the magazine. “We’re always playing each other our [music], and whenever I start to think, ‘Maybe I’ll get on Twitter [X] and say something about this,’ I’m always like, ‘Maybe I’ll write a song instead.’ ”Sabrina Carpenter for Variety.Matthew Sprout/VarietyCarpenter firstaddressed the conversation surrounding Swift and her SKIMS campaignin aRolling Stoneinterview about two months after the ‘90s-inspired ads first dropped earlier this year.“I’ve been very, very communicative with her about that situation, and I just love her so much and support her till the end,” Carpenter said of the “Anti-Hero” singer. “So it was no weirdness for me, but I know people will just say things because that’s all they have time to do.”Never miss a story — sign up forPEOPLE’s free daily newsletterto stay up-to-date on the best of what PEOPLE has to offer, from juicy celebrity news to compelling human interest stories.Sabrina Carpenter performs in New York City in June 2024.Nina Westervelt/Billboard via GettyPrior to their friendship and Eras Tour team-up, Carpenter — a longtime and vocal fan of Swift — opened up about how the star’s music, and specifically her 2020 albumfolklore, has inspired her own creative process.“Taylor Swift posted something when she released her new album in the description of when it dropped and saying like, ‘I usually would overthink the songs that I’m going to put out and release,’”she told Apple Musicin 2020. “And I just feel like nothing is certain right now and so it just felt right and I wanted to do it.”“And that put me in such a good warm-hearted place where then I could listen to all these songs that I’ve been making with such a fresh perspective of like, ‘You know what, this is how I feel right now in musical form,’ ” Carpenter added.

That’s that Swift espresso!

Sabrina Carpenteris pulling back the curtain a bit on her “best, best” friendship withTaylor Swift, which blossomed after the “Espresso” singer, 25,joined Swift, 34, on the road for a chunk of her international Eras Tour dateslast year.

While chatting withVarietyfor its August 2024 cover story, Carpentercalled the 14-time Grammy winnera “rock star” — a reaction to a record store’s decision to file Swift’s albumThe Tortured Poets Departmentin the “rock” section.

“She’s just such a gangster with all of it,” she said of the superstar. “No matter what people are saying, everything that I’ve ever seen her tackle, she’s done so with grace.”

Sabrina Carpenter and Taylor Swift performing together during a Sydney, Australia tour stop in February 2024.Don Arnold/TAS24/Getty

Don Arnold/TAS24/Getty

Elsewhere in the interview, Carpenter addressedher headline-making SKIMS campaign, whichsparked lots of online conversationgiven Swift’shighly publicized feudwith the shapewear brand’s founder, Kim Kardashian.

“The posts about me having to ‘ask for her permission’ — no,” theGirl Meets Worldalum toldVariety. “She’s one of my best, best friends, and we grab dinner or text and catch up like you would with your best friend.”

Plus, as her own spotlight continues to grow, Carpenter said her close friendship with the “Enchanted” singer has been an invaluable resource.

“It’s so cool for me to get a perspective on this whole process from her and the community of artists that I feel I’m close to — to get advice from them on stuff that you can’t just ask the internet,” she told the magazine. “We’re always playing each other our [music], and whenever I start to think, ‘Maybe I’ll get on Twitter [X] and say something about this,’ I’m always like, ‘Maybe I’ll write a song instead.’ ”

Sabrina Carpenter for Variety.Matthew Sprout/Variety

Matthew Sprout/Variety

Carpenter firstaddressed the conversation surrounding Swift and her SKIMS campaignin aRolling Stoneinterview about two months after the ‘90s-inspired ads first dropped earlier this year.

“I’ve been very, very communicative with her about that situation, and I just love her so much and support her till the end,” Carpenter said of the “Anti-Hero” singer. “So it was no weirdness for me, but I know people will just say things because that’s all they have time to do.”

Never miss a story — sign up forPEOPLE’s free daily newsletterto stay up-to-date on the best of what PEOPLE has to offer, from juicy celebrity news to compelling human interest stories.

Sabrina Carpenter performs in New York City in June 2024.Nina Westervelt/Billboard via Getty

Nina Westervelt/Billboard via Getty

Prior to their friendship and Eras Tour team-up, Carpenter — a longtime and vocal fan of Swift — opened up about how the star’s music, and specifically her 2020 albumfolklore, has inspired her own creative process.

“Taylor Swift posted something when she released her new album in the description of when it dropped and saying like, ‘I usually would overthink the songs that I’m going to put out and release,’”she told Apple Musicin 2020. “And I just feel like nothing is certain right now and so it just felt right and I wanted to do it.”

“And that put me in such a good warm-hearted place where then I could listen to all these songs that I’ve been making with such a fresh perspective of like, ‘You know what, this is how I feel right now in musical form,’ ” Carpenter added.

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